Friday, November 28, 2008

The Fault Lies with Islam - whether apologists for it like it or not

LOOKING FOR THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE MUMBAI MOSLEM MURDERERS AND AL QAEDA

[and don't forget to look towards Pakistan (ISI)]

Why agonize over trying to tie the "Deccan Mujahadeen" or whatever these Islamic murder squads call themselves with Al Qaeda?

What connects the two slaughterers of whomever does not believe in the melange of evil garbage that goes by the name of Islam--with its koran, "sayings of the 'prophet,'" "life of the 'prophet'" and whatever--is Islam.

It is in the name of Islam that such monstrous slaughters of us--the "unbelievers"--are carried out.

The slaughter of innocents who were guilty of only one (or two or three) things, not being believers in Islam first ("infidels"), being "Westerners" (not East Indians), and of course the prime target of any Moslem with murder (jihad) on his mind: Jews.

No matter how the taqqiya* artists wind their minds and tongues around the idea of jihad (killing of all who do not believe in the sickening dribble from the mind of Mohammed) the blame for slaughter of innocents who meant no harm to Moslems falls directly on the product of Mohammed's mind and those who follow that ideology of evil must be ascribed to Islam.

You want to know what taqqiya is? Read Appendix B to this post. It contains a constant stream of it spewed out by a proponent of this Islamic technique of conquering us.
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*taqqiya - lying in the name of or to promote or excuse islam
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APPENDIX A

from http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3544

Comment Submitted by Jesse Collins (United States), Jun 13, 2006 at 11:57

True Believer:

First. you did a magnificent job with the responder to your article which well done and researched well in the first place. Second, "sane" used typical left discussion adhomenom Stalinist model. He gave you a great opportunity to show people who don't know how that combination of sects (leftist, Islam Al Taqqiya, and Stalinism works) and to overwhelm it with truth. The amount of historical and even modern study of Islam and its sunnah support you unequivocally. Please continue to break hard on these guys with your eloquence and the country will be allright (as long as it is defended by scholarly truth presented by people like you).

If you are not aware of Al taqqiya, I believe it is the principal model used by Islam supporters to facilitate the allusion of a "peaceful" Islam. Supposedly passed down directly to Mohammad from God, and then to Mohammad followers, they - believers (Muslims) - when applying the first apparently non agressive aspect of Jihad as Muslims immigrate into the target country to be conquered and before Dhimmitude is established, are told by God to lie to the members of the host country about Islam's aims, that is establishment of Islam as the only way of life under dhimmitude and sharia, including destruction of the civilization, whether Hindu, Christian, Jewish, or other. The lie and referenced Allah - Mohammad contriving process is called Al Taqqiya, or Taqqiya. The formal definition is applied at the end of this note.

Good luck to you. Keep pouring the coals to them. With your efforts and others like you defending us through discussion, maybe we can head off hand to hand, which otherwise seems inevitable with this group.

JC

Al taqqiya, mandated dissimulation by Muslims to non-Muslims. Lying to infidels is desirable and recommended
[JC]

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Submitted by true believer (India), May 22, 2006 at 05:04

[taqqiya Alert! the following is by a Moslem making the case for excusing Islam for what it is: a potpourri of bits and pieces from the Torah and the New Testament plus the utter ignorance of the creature dubbed Mohammed]

Banu Quraiza was attacked because they were Jews and they did not support the quraish tribe when it attacked Medina. They were not warriors but artisans and businessmen who belonged to the Jewish Al-nadhir tribe. Otherwise there is no evidence that they persecuted Mohammed or his gang, it a deliberate attempt to mislead us.

You said "They used to through dead animals parts while prophet and his followers praying in Masjid. They stolen their cattles and killed them and finally they forced them to leave Mecca" Sounds more like a political hate speech. It was the pagan Arabs who forced Mohammed and his followers out Mecca, not the Jews of Banu Quraiza as you wrongly claim. Give me the relevant ayas or hadiths that tell that the people of Banu Quraiza did this.

You ask "Now tell me he should leave them or punish them?" They did not start the war. They had surrendered after two weeks of seige by moslems without killing a single moslem. What would you have done ? Do you mean that Bosnian Serbs were doing the thing right in Foca ? Do you think the Israelis should do the same to the Palestinians today. Believe me there are passages in Deutronomy that can justify something similar to this, only that nobody is insane enough to follow that. What punishment are you talking about ? Killing all men including boys who have grown pubic hair ? Raping their wives and daughters ? Rahyana bint Zaid was "married" the same night by Mohammed the same night her father and husband were beheaded by mohammed and co, and consumated his marriage.. aka raped ..on the terrified Rahyana. She chose to be a lowly concubine instead of converting from Judaism to Islam till her death. Men were simply killed because they refused to convert from Judaism to Islam. Initially mohammed had tried unsuccessfully to win over the jews and make them accept him as a prophet by celebrating the jewish passovers and observing their fasts. Note that Judaism does not have the concept of Takkiyah.

Later mohammed had signed a ten year no war treaty (Hudaibia) with Meccans then two years later sneaked up on them with thousands of jehadis and attacked.It was he who broke treaty and attacked Mecca . He was the first one to break a tenet of the treaty by not returning Meccan women. They were instead gang raped and sold off. Of course he convinced his fool hardy followers that Allah okayed it all. Quran confirms both.The late Yasser Arafat of PLO brought up Hudaybiya to tell his followers: "If Muhammad, the most respected man in all Islamic history—can make peace with his enemies, so can I."

Go through the following to get a better perspective.
Saheeh Bukhari - 33, 41, 2004, 4101, 4103
Saheeh Muslim - 1765, 1766, 1767, 1769
Sunan Abi Dawood - 3003, 3004
Musnad Ahmad - 10613, 13808, 22823, 23464

THE FOREGOING IS IN ANSWER TO THIS COMMENT:

Submitted by Issa Muhammad Moosa (Kuwait), May 20, 2006 at 01:33

Dear TRUE Believer!

"Banu Quraiza " protected Prophet Muhammad's followers killers, looters and hypocrates who made his life difficult in Mecca and finally he migrated to Medina. They used to through dead animals parts while prophet and his followers praying in Masjid. They stolen their cattles and killed them and finally they forced them to leave Mecca. When Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) got some followers in Medina, he went back to Banu Quariza and asked them to hand over all criminals who made his and his family members and followes life hell... in Mecca to punish them or forgive them if they accept their sins......but they refused to give back and declared war. Now tell me he should leave them or punish them? When Al Qaida attecked on USA (9/11), USA asked Taliban to hand over Osama but they did not....and finally USA attecked on whole Afghanistan. Same Saddam case.

I agree when war start most of the time innocent also suffer.

More reader comments on this article at http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/45995.

AND HERE, AT LAST, THE PIECE DE RESISTANCE**

APPENDIX B

TAQQIYA EXTRAORDINAIRE
from COMMENT to REGARDING: Terrorists seize Chabad offices in Mumbai
http://thejewinyellow.blogspot.com/2008/11/regarding-terrorists-seize-chabad.html

TAQQIYAH ALERT!!!! [Islamic lying propaganda. Read with a grain of salt!]
the following is by a Moslem making the case for excusing Islam for what it is: a potpourri of bits and pieces from the Torah and the New Testament plus the utter ignorance of the creature dubbed Mohammed

akhter said...
Lesly , my dear those Muslims who are doing such things are the result of our leaders faults,so do not blame it on ISLAM!


ISLAM and terrorism are as incompatible and as opposed to each other as fire and water or night and day. Even militancy is alien to Islamic culture. How can a faith condone terrorism much less foster it, when it preaches: “Not equal are the good deed and the evil deed. Repel the evil deed by one which is better. Then lo! He, between whom and you there was enmity (will become) as though he was a bosom friend?” (Pickthall: Fussilat 41:34)

Muslims continue to adhere strictly to this sermon. They revere the Prophets of the Old Testament and Jesus, son of Mary, as messengers of Allah just like Mohammad (SAW), “making no distinction between one and another of His Messengers” (Al Baqarah: 285).

Some Christians say offending things to denigrate Christ. For example, James D. Tabor in his new book, The Jesus Dynasty, argues that Jesus had a human father other than Joseph, mentioned in John 6:42. He claims that Jesus’ father was a Roman soldier named Pantera, quoting a Greek philosopher, Celsus. But Jesus’ virgin birth is an article of faith with Muslims. Others asperse on his relations with Mary Magdalene.

Similarly, an article in the March 5 issue of The Guardian, quotes Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem as saying, “As far as Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don’t believe, or a legend, which I don’t believe either. Or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics.”

According to the professor, “Moses was probably also on mind-altering drugs when he saw the burning bush.” But for a Muslim, even a ‘terrorist’ one, such utterances would be blasphemous, even though Islam and its Prophet are made the objects of damning cartoons, defamatory movies and obnoxious literature.

Killing innocent people is an act of terrorism, even if it is not intended. But there is no concept of ‘collateral damage’ in Islam.

Therefore, where an innocent person is killed, such terrorist act is hit by the injunction “…and whosever kills a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he killed all humankind, and whoever saved the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all humankind” (Pickthall: Al-Maida: 32)

The above injunction is universal in application. It mentions just “a human being.” That human being may belong to any faith or even had no faith at all.

It is a reminder that as human beings, a believer and a pagan are equal before Allah, because He created all. He is rubb-il ‘alameen, the Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds.

A terrorist who claims to be Muslim is not a ‘practising’ Muslim. He is a disobedient Muslim like those who wilfully avoid offering prayers and fasting, paying zakat, or who drink or commit other major sins. He (or she) is at best a rebel against Islam, who acts in clear defiance of its teachings.

There is no difference between him and those Christians who put millions of non-Christians to death all over the world, in blatant disregard of Christ’s instruction: “And unto him who smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other…” (Luke 6:20)

Therefore, to blame Islam for the acts of those who wilfully defy its injunctions is as wrong as blaming Christianity for the excesses of its followers. Muslims are stereotyped as terrorists. But it is not enough to be content with condemning terrorists through an op-ed piece in a newspaper.

That is already being done more forcefully by others. Saudi Arabia has circulated a consensus fatwah and more recently a large, all-India congregation of ulema at Deoband, expressed similar views. The is need to find ways to combat and prevent it. That would require understanding the problem. The fact is that terrorism as indulged in by Muslims today has two aspects. One is political, the other religious.

Political terrorists like the Iraqis, Afghans and Palestinians offer some defence for their terrorist acts. Howsoever flimsy, yet it cannot be entirely discarded. Often it is the spontaneous reaction to the excesses perpetrated by the other side.

But for religious terrorism such as sectarian killings and attacks on each other’s mosques and funerals, there can be no excuse. These acts amount to wilful massacre of innocent souls and desecration of places of worship.

Moreover, whereas political terrorism is aimed at non-Muslim invaders and occupiers, religious terrorism is directed against Muslims. It is blatant fratricide, because, “the believers are nothing other than brothers.” (Al hujurat: 10).

Between the Wahabis and Hanafis the differences are almost like between Puritans/Protestants and Catholics. Once upon a time they, too, were at each other’s throats. But they put all that behind long ago. Differences exist but violence has ceased. By contrast Muslims seem still to be wallowing in the Dark Ages.

Sunnis, Shias, Wahabis, Hanafis etc., all are united on the belief in Allah, His Messenger Mohammad (SAW), Day of Judgment, Resurrection, angels, prayer, fasting, hajj and zakat. These are the basic tenets.

All else is supplementary and personal, for which every person is responsible to Allah alone. This is what the Quran repeatedly says: “No bearer of burden can bear the burden of another?” (Al-Najm: 38 and elsewhere).

Moreover, when even with regard to non-believers Islam asks Muslims to tell them, “To you your religion; to me my religion” (Kafirun: 6), and rejects compulsion in the matter of faith (la ikraha fid-deen), why should Muslims of one sect try to impose their interpretation and practice on their brothers of another sect with violence and bloodshed?

How can those who perpetrate such acts claim to be the followers of one whom God sent as Mercy for the universe (Rahmat-al lil alameen)? It is high time that people endowed with wisdom (ulil albab) reflected, imbibed and imbued others with the essence of Islam to receive Divine Mercy.
November 27, 2008 1:30 PM
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**Pièce de résistance is a French term (circa 1839), translated into English literally as "piece of resistance", referring to the best part or feature of something (as in a meal), a showpiece, or highlight. It can be thought of as the portion of a creation which defies (i.e. "resists") orthodox or common conventions and practices, thereby making the whole of the creation unique and special. The phrase gives the sense that the referred-to element is the defining essence of the whole, that part that makes it memorable or gives it its unique character.

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